In this conversation we explore Eva Vass’s scholarship towards re-imagining learning and teaching (and therefore theorising and research on these) as an interdisciplinary, embodied, creative, receptive-responsive dialogue. Eva’s research approach in this spirit is experimenting with the understandings of “Natural Inclusionality” (Rayner, 2017), a refreshing take on the scientific study of nature. In this interview Eva discusses her attempts to establish a research trajectory which can signify and illustrate the shift towards substantive, lived, receptive-responsive dialogue in various dimensions of educational inquiry and practice.